Sigh.alecsandros wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 6:27 pm... That can be said about absolutely anything anywhere anytime.HMSVF wrote: ↑Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:49 pm
In summary there will never be agreement because there cannot be. You either believe that a battle map can be a rock solid foundation that can be built on or you don't . If this event had occurred in the era of GPS and computers I would say yes it could. That Mr Jurens has said that its almost impossible + the fact that it relies on fallible human input using an analogue technology and pen and paper, i'm not sure it can. So the arguments are pretty much superfluous as its one sides "truth" v another.
Your perception of yourself - as an existing human being , born , raised, grown up, etc, is a matter of impressions fixated on your memory, which, as is well known now, can be easily and definitively altered by life and experience. The documents and belongings that "prove" who you are in relationship to the social establishment can all be bought and/or forged and/or incorrectly filed, written, kept or read. (as a side note, this week in my country, an interesting piece of news provides the curious story of a "dead" man , recently found alive and kicking in an insane asylum, 19 years after the death certificate has been issued, and long after the inheritance had been shared between the relatives)
If you want to debase/put in a relative context a thing, then you should be realy carefull about other things (such as existence) put in the same super-fluid context...
Antonio and Alberto's maps and analysis are simply the best that exist today, and that's all there is to it.
And so it goes on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and (well you get the picture)
This isn’t really a forum is it...
It’s just about who can shout loudest and most aggressively. Wonder if that’s why the Hood site called time on its forum. I came here to learn and to ask questions. Naval history is just a pastime for me,however in real life I’m used to critical analysis and so are my peers. It’s a given.Its how you progress. This is simply a flame war between pro Axis POV and pro RN POV factions in reality.
I’m sure that if I visit again in a years time it will be the same arguments over the smallest aspect and will still come down to the same basic premise. Can a super accurate,minute by minute second by second map based on a 75 year old battle where 2 of combatants documents lay at the bottom of the cold Atlantic be produced?
With it soon to be the season of goodwill to all men I bid you adieu and sincerely wish you all well.
Best wishes VF