Re: Hits on PoW and Bismarck
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:17 pm
Hello Alberto,
There is nothing convoluted about separating the real and the imagined. We could indeed create a plethora of imagined combined closing rates based on different Bismarck courses, and based on a further unwarranted assumption that unlike PoW she did not change course during the engagement up until sometime after 06:00.
However since even McMullen did not even know for sure which salvoes hit and therefore at what approximate ranges, how could we know better than him? We could estimate if we had accurate timings from the German side, but...………...we don't.
We have a further witness to Bismarck turning away- Rowell. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8249&start=30In his letter (I published unredacted on this site) to Bellairs he says:
Direct eye-witness evidence Bismarck turned away, long before Hood was sunk. That there was an assumption Bismarck needed to open her A arcs is possibly wrong. The motive does not matter, the turn is seen and recorded.
All the best
wadinga
That is because you have lost track of the difference between things which have strong evidence of truth, like PoW's recorded speed, course and target angle, and things which are entirely imagined, like Bismarck's course, speed and target angle at the same moments. You have got so used to imagining things and then calling them real or facts, you can't tell the difference any more.I stand corrected. I had not understood the convoluted and reticent way of determining the closure rate used by Mr.Wadinga
There is nothing convoluted about separating the real and the imagined. We could indeed create a plethora of imagined combined closing rates based on different Bismarck courses, and based on a further unwarranted assumption that unlike PoW she did not change course during the engagement up until sometime after 06:00.
However since even McMullen did not even know for sure which salvoes hit and therefore at what approximate ranges, how could we know better than him? We could estimate if we had accurate timings from the German side, but...………...we don't.
Therefore we have no ranges with which to draw Bismarck's postulated course.The true range on opening was 25,000 yards. The true range on ceasing fire was 14,500 yards.
No hits were observed, but it is likely from results observed that fire was effective between salvoes 5 and 16.
We have a further witness to Bismarck turning away- Rowell. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8249&start=30In his letter (I published unredacted on this site) to Bellairs he says:
Bismarck opened fire half a minute after the Prince of Wales, before doing so turning to open her "A" arcs.
Direct eye-witness evidence Bismarck turned away, long before Hood was sunk. That there was an assumption Bismarck needed to open her A arcs is possibly wrong. The motive does not matter, the turn is seen and recorded.
All the best
wadinga