Hello everybody,
@ Bill Jurens,
the distance between Prinz Eugen and the PoW on the Gefecthskizze at 06:00 is around 20.000 meters ( so I assume Brinkmann wanted to reproduce the 19.700 meters he declared ) and it is of course totally wrong by more than 4.000 meters at least, ... but we know this very well already, ... just like VizeAdm Schmundt immediately realized and wrote on his report back to Brinkmann, ... this thanking the Ltnt P. Jasper more precise gunnery report declared distances. It is a very easy concept to realize and accept, because it has been written in clear words on 1941.
The correct distance at that point ( 06:00 ) between the Prinz Eugen and the PoW was in the range of 15.000 meters as we discussed already on several post on this thread.
At this point what we need to achieve is a good scale reproduction of the OS1 situation I have proposed, to be shared among everybody, evaluated and agreed after the verification of the 4 official bearings I have proposed A, B, C and D.
Immediately after we can have the final confirmation of the frame we have realized been correct thru the 20.800 meters between the Bismarck and the Hood position at open fire.
It is just a geometrical exercise now to be done in a good enough very large scale map using the agreed tolerances.
I can anticipate you all the final result, ... and it will be an almost perfect match with all the above listed parameters.
This will realize a solid and agreed battle map base to start and proceed further more.
@ Alberto Virtuani,
you wrote :
I was thinking we were trying to reconstruct the battle, not to say that it is impossible, back to the old excuse of the "fog of war", last hope for the ones who cannot accept a modest military performance.
In this regard, the above post is correct: anyone is free to think that there are no elements to reconstruct the battle within the agreed tolerances. This position is legitimate (even if incorrect IMO), and we can all leave in peace, with Antonio's reconstruction on one side (complete, respecting all solid evidences and explaining even the "inconsistencies") and with the agnostic "fog of war" of the ones who say there is no certainty at all on the other side.
I have to correct you.
The reconstruction of this battle has been already done long time ago ( 2005 ) in a good enough level of precision by me.
A new version with more details is going to be published in few years no matter what.
We can do this exercise in this forum as a team, ... if everybody will cooperate, ... and I am happy about it of course, ... no problems.
There is no room anymore either for the " old novel " account of for the " fog of war " supporters, simply because way too many documents has been found and a very detailed work with them has been already done, and the whole aspects of this battle are now clear on many parameters.
It is enough to put them one after the other and work with some logic on a piece of paper ( or a computer graphic map ), with the obvious tolerances, and the work is not that difficult to be done after my 2005 published work.
There is no way back now, ... only to go ahead and improve it, ... because nobody will be able to delete what has been published already.
Bye Antonio
In order to honor a soldier, we have to tell the truth about what happened over there. The whole, hard, cold truth. And until we do that, we dishonor her and every soldier who died, who gave their life for their country. ( Courage Under Fire )