northcape wrote: ↑
Wed May 29, 2019 7:17 pm
The problem is not the theory or a specific opinion, but simply the circumstance that the theory is considered as fact. The procedure to do so is irrational/non-scientific (e.g. taking parts of the theory, for example the track reconstruction, to prove other parts of the theory). There is no point in discussing any coarse or fine details if this fundamental issue is not resolved.
It is more to this -
any debate should be made by equal parties. I.e. in debate circles, each side has a team/crew, of equal number. Say 3 vs 3 or 4 vs 4.
When one side had 10 people and the other has 1, it is unbalanced and unfair. Very strong and capable men can debate like this, but it's not fair ...
After awhile , anybody gets bogged down in small arguments and small nuances and small pieces of info, while the bigger picture, or the critical arguments , get ignoered, washed out, discarded.
For a constructive debate here, you should create a team to support Alberto, with replies, with presence, with attention. He can't be on the forum 24/7, can he ? And naturally, when he gets back on the forum, being alone, he sees 20 replies from 5-7 men, all of them demanding attention and being , generally, negative in their tone and attitude. It's not fair, it's not balanced and it's not constructive.
What this forum shoudl have is a temporary division of teams. 5 on 5 or 6 on 6. Work in teams, work in turns. Team one posts today. Team two has 24 hours to respond. Team one further replies, etc.
PS: The scientific approach that you mention has been applied (in a way) by Antonio and later by Alberto, by using a statystical analysis of occurence of battle timings, based on 15 or 20 different wittnesses accounts (IIRC). This is burried somewhere in 2014, IIRC... A perfect model of the battle can't be produced based on the available evidence. I think that's obvious, and nobody says otherwise (and no battlehip battle of WW2 can't be perfectly modeled , IMHO). However, a good model can be done
- and has been done - by Antonio and Alberto.
If anyone has the courage to create a support team , and dedicate the time and energy to peruse the 6 years of debates here , and support Alberto, that person or persons will find many many gems (primary documents, analyses, intermediary conclusions, reports, etc) , and will understand the intricancies of this naval battle better. All this should be made with an opened mind of course... If not totally dedicated , the team members would cause more problems then solutons for Alberto...