The Climate Change agenda

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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by Dave Saxton » Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:13 pm

So, who did it? I mean who leaked the emails from EAU and blew up the whole scam?
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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by OpanaPointer » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:54 pm

Dave Saxton wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 3:13 pm
So, who did it? I mean who leaked the emails from EAU and blew up the whole scam?
Really? Still calling it a scam. You're helping the case that you're touting a conspiracy theory with that. I do appreciate it.

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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by Dave Saxton » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:43 pm

Who did It? It had to to be somebody familiar with the damning content of the emails. Once again who did it?
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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by OpanaPointer » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:11 pm

Satan?

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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by Byron Angel » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:28 am

OpanaPointer wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:11 pm
Satan?

Ask Patrick Moore.

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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by OpanaPointer » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:43 am

Drowning men will grasp at straws. Or cherry-pick.

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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by RF » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:52 am

OpanaPointer wrote:
Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:40 pm

Anti-AGW is certainly hostile to academic freedom and free speech. Resolute efforts to silence climate science are deplorable.
This is a complete and utter load of twaddle - and encapsulates exactly what the AGW lobbyists want people to believe because there is no coherent basis for AGW.

It is in the interests of academic freedom and free speech that the flawed AGW case is challenged, openly and in free debate. This ''OpanaPointer'' doesn't engage in debate or any rational argument but instead offers only clichés, slogans and denunciations, with no consideration or respect for other posters points of view. This is typical of the ignorance and bigotry offered by these lobbyists precisely because they cannot justify their case by rational or logical argument.

They have nothing constructive to contribute.
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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by OpanaPointer » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:34 pm

I don't debate with conspiracy theorists.

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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by Dave Saxton » Wed Mar 20, 2019 3:53 pm

U of A has been fighting the freedom of information request for 7 years, but the courts ordered these sets of emails released. They became available earlier this month. Much duplication of the earlier climate gate revelations but among new are the extent of the cherry picking practiced by the alarmists. Another was that the Medieval Warm Period was well established, but was deliberately down played or ignored.

Now much of the documents been rendered unreadable on line or has been taken down:

http://climatelitigationwatch.org/wp-co ... mplars.pdf

http://climatelitigationwatch.org/wp-co ... xC3E11.pdf

In case one needs to get up to speed about climate gate this survey may be helpful:

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/image ... alysis.pdf
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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by RF » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:28 am

Thank you for posting this.

Another aspect to this is that all the higher education institutions in the UK receive their taxpayer funding via the European Union, which is partly why that institution is also promoting the AGW bubble.
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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by paul.mercer » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:20 am

Hi RF
I’ve been following this debate with interest and while some of the more complicated arguments are far in advance of my knowledge on the subject of climate change it seems to me that there are far too many small but very noisy groups who are keen to spout their views to anyone who will listen ,but refuse point blank to listen to, let alone acknowledge, any counter arguments and this applies to the climate changers, vegans, human rights, animal rights and heaven knows how many other ‘rights’ activists. The problem being that they all believe that if one shouts loud enough and long enough others will take up their cause (we can see this in some of the Bismarck debates!!).
Frankly I firmly believe that this ‘global warming’ stuff is a natural phenomenon which happens from time to time over the centuries. There may possibly be a link from pollution, but if we think back to the industrial revolution in the UK when everything was powered by and the ensuing dirt and smoke coal and even right up to the time when the ‘Clean Air’ act was passed, but we are still here!
Another point that the climate changers always seem to ignore is that even the so called ‘experts’ cannot agree one says the world is warming up and another will tell us that we are due for an ice age, it’s the same with all these so called experts, the latest, after being told to ‘Go to work on an egg’ are now telling us that more than one egg occasionally and we are sure to die of something!
Like my boiled eggs, I now take everything with a large pinch of salt – I know, that bad for me as well!

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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by RF » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:16 am

There is of course a useful cliché here - the one about empty vessels making the loudest noise.

Nothing in life is simple and we need genuine scientific enquiry to understand the environment we live in. Rather unlike the one individual who insisted that carbon dioxide would fry the world and then couldn't answer the question ''If CO2 is such a greenhouse gas then why is it so cold on Mars, where the atmosphere is 97% CO2?'
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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by RF » Wed May 08, 2019 8:55 am

Further to my last post I have been reminded that the ''climate change'' lobby have been active now for more than 30 years. Various company AGM's that I attend are showing increasing emphasis on zero or neutral carbon policies that the scam promotes and as industry is pushed in to this direction you can see how clever the scam is.

Carbon neutral or carbon zero policies will have no noticeable impact on the climate, it won't for example stop sea level rising or glaciers retreating. Yet when beyond that very little happens the climate change lobby will trumpet the success of their policies when in reality the threatened extreme changes in climate were never going to happen. Commercially these lobbyists are on to a winner - whatever happens to the climate.
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Re: The Climate Change agenda

Post by Byron Angel » Thu May 09, 2019 1:15 pm

"Commercially these lobbyists are on to a winner - whatever happens to the climate."

..... which has been their goal from the very beginning: complete control over the hugely profitable global energy marketplace.
A hundred years from now, the phrase "settled science" will be the punch line in a hundred black jokes.

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