RF wrote:.... failed to carry out Operation Desert Storm to its military conclusion and finish the job when they had the opportunity.
The world I think would be a far better place without the party politicians.
Yet another tradegdy in a conflict that has happened and continues to happen because politicians like former US President Bush and former UK Prime Minister Major failed to carry out Operation Desert Storm to its military conclusion and finish the job when they had the opportunity.
lwd wrote:RF wrote:.... failed to carry out Operation Desert Storm to its military conclusion and finish the job when they had the opportunity.
But did they? Have the opertunity that is. Most of the coallition partners did not want to see an attack deep into Iraq. This includes the host nations. Furthermore the UN mandates would not have covered it.The world I think would be a far better place without the party politicians.
As opposed to what? Dictators? Party politics are a natural outgrowth of democracies especially those with fairly large populations.
RF wrote: ... Operation Desert Storm did take Coalition Forces deep into Iraq, including western Iraq at the opposite end to Kuwait.
The failure was in not seizing Baghdad long enough to topple the Ba'ath regime, a different atitude to that of 1945.
... What I mean't was party political machine politicians, the alternative are civil leaders elected without the need for political machines, as for example in Switzerland.
Karl Heidenreich wrote: ...You forgot the worst General ever: Colin Powell...
Karl Heidenreich wrote:
You forgot the worst General ever: Colin Powell...
If Switzerland is without parties it is a truly rare democracy/republic. Now parties do have their down side I'll admit but they are a natural part of or outgrowth of democratic government.
Such statments make you appear to be totaly ignorant of military history or from a population famous for living under bridges. I guess a warped sense of humor is possible as well but even that bares the taint of said under bridge dwellers.
No. The worst general ever was Adolf Hitler. Colin Powell didn't quite leave a legacy of the White House being overun by Iraqi forces.
Close second places go to General Tojo, Idi Amin, Francisco Solano Lopez, Saddam Hussein and von Schlieffen.
Karl Heidenreich wrote: RF:No. The worst general ever was Adolf Hitler.....
Let´s leave Hitler for the last....
I´ll not say anything about Tojo now because I´m waiting to be delivered the book "Shattered Sword" which I believe will complete my conception of this guy.
...Napoleon: just see 1812 Russian campaign and Waterloo...
My friend, I can't believe you put Bonaparte in that list. The guy was brilliant. Have you studied his campaigns? Invading Russia was a mistake, but he was in good company. Waterloo was fought against two opponents who greatly outnumbered him. His army was a thrown together remnant of what came before, and he was sick. Even then, the battle is still studied by soldiers.
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