Would Yamato with advanced AA gunnery survive air attack ?

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Re: Would Yamato with advanced AA gunnery survive air attack

Post by alecsandros » Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:23 pm

:D :D :D
Just as in a balanced carrier vs carrier engagement :D

And, with little to no aircraft left, would you agree over the following statements (peace offer :lol: )

- carriers were better strategic vectors than battleships
- but they relied on a chain of factors in order to be effective
- the chain of factors needed to make a carrier efficient [escort, weather, time of day, recon] was longer and more costly in the real war than the chain of factors needed to make a battleship efficient [escort, modern AA, radar].
- against a multitude of possible [unexpected and rapidly appearing] threats, a symbiosis of carrier+battleship was critical for the success of the mission.

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Alex

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Re: Would Yamato with advanced AA gunnery survive air attack

Post by boredatwork » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:28 pm

- against a multitude of possible [unexpected and rapidly appearing] threats, a symbiosis of carrier+battleship was critical for the success of the mission.
Sorry, no - I will concede the victory by abandoning the field of battle, but I will not accept insult to injury by bending at the knee to such a deal breaker. :stop:

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Re: Would Yamato with advanced AA gunnery survive air attack

Post by ede144 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:41 pm

at Alexandros

I agree with your points. And in addition, the Carriers needed a really huge supply chain, beginning with oil for their own machines and for the planes plus ammo, spares and replacement planes plus crews. The carriers were a very short legged weapon system with all limitations already mentioned. If the Pacific would have been similar to the Atlantik, it might be possible that the carriers would not have been the clear winner of WW2. After WW2 nobody really challenged the US Navy in combat. So nobody knows if the Russian plans would have worked or not.
Nevertheless the the large gun BB found a new role in NGS, the effectiveness learned the IJA, the Red Army in the Baltics, the North Korean Army and the Vietcong. It proved so effective that even today Marines are asking for the BB`s

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Re: Would Yamato with advanced AA gunnery survive air attack

Post by alecsandros » Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:58 pm

boredatwork wrote: Sorry, no - I will concede the victory by abandoning the field of battle, but I will not accept insult to injury by bending at the knee to such a deal breaker. :stop:
Than we must get back our ports and rearm... :D

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