Wordy wrote:What would've happened if it was Yamato there instead of Kirishima? Would the Yamato have sunk the South Dakota in short order, would the newer ship's radar have detected the Washington sneaking up on her and been able to successfully engage both US Battleships, or would the Washington still manage to suprise the Yamato? At the historical range I doubt the Yamato armour would've been able to defeat the 16" shells so would she be too heavily damaged to fight back and lost like Kirishima?
Personally I'm going for a Yamato victory I think the South Dakota would've been sunk quicker and the radar on the Yamato would've detected an prevented the Washington from a suprise attack.
Rick Rather wrote:Did Yamato have radar in 1942? Her Tabular Record of Movement doesn't list a radar installation (Type 21, Mod 3, air and surface search) until July of '43. Of course, she was pretty much serving as a hotel for admirals' staff at the time. If they had intended her to go in harm's way, they might have installed one earlier.
Two other considerations about her radar:
- In September, 1942 Musashi knocked-out her own radar with the concussion from her 18" guns (this was not an uncommon event for either side). Would Yamato's radar have held-up better?
- Radars were often severely degraded when operated close to land. Generally, the operator had to reduce the gain to minimize back-scatter, but this sharply reduced the range of detection. Naturally, this affected both sides, but the Americans were more experienced at dealing with the situation.
Rick Rather wrote:As far as the scenario itself goes, I find it very intriguing. As a naval wargamer for 35+ years, I'd like to play this out except for one thing: Looking at the correlation of forces on paper, I wouldn't give the Americans a snowball's chance in Hell even if no Japanese battleship was present. By rights, Washington & South Dakota should have soaked-up at least four Long-Lances each and joined the Future Coral Reefs of the South Pacific. Anyone know what the Japs' major malfunction was that night vis-à-vis their torpedoes?
Wordy wrote:What would've happened if it was Yamato there instead of Kirishima?
yellowtail3 wrote:Wordy wrote:What would've happened if it was Yamato there instead of Kirishima?
My guess would be... about the same thing, except that Yamato might have survived. She would have made a bigger hole in SD with her one (?) main battery hit, requiring more repair time. Yamato, soaking up ten or so 16" shells, would have been a mess, but probably still afloat. Maneuverable or not, is an open question... but probably able. Unless able to put some turns on, would have been at risk for worse the next morning.
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