Garyt wrote:I'd say it would not make a huge difference in general.
Now if the weight for extra armor perhaps went into somehow armoring the rudder, or better yet used the extra weight for armor and instead give the Bismarck some redundancies for steering it may have made a difference. Not that it would win the battle, but that it could have made it back to port safely.
From USN handbook of damage control
15-24. Effects of underwater hit near ends: ships without torpedo-protection systems. A hit in the bow region may blow off the entire bow section, usually at a heavy transverse bulkhead. (This may be the effect of a secondary gasoline or magazine explosion).A hit near the stern, although less likely to blow off an entire section of the ship, probably will carry away one or all of the screws, and may destroy or render inoperative the rudder and steering gear.
However, the shell the Bismarck took in the Battle of Denmark straight may not have penetrated
Also a deeper belt would not have helped considering how deep it was in this case.
Sorry this appears to be nonsens; You cannot provide armor to the rudder without detracting rudderfunction
Yamato had an auxiliary rudder, but in testing it wasn't able to turn the ship.
Garyt wrote: of course I did not mean to directly armor the rudder. As I stated, the thing to do would have been to put in a steering system more like the Iowa, to allow the ship to steer with one rudder disabled. My main point was about redundancies in the rudder.
Thorsten Wahl wrote:
As far as I know answers to these questions wer not available for any capitalship - so in my opinion a statment that ship XYZ with similar damage and similar whether conditions perfoms better, is probably pure speculation without these facts.
Thorsten Wahl wrote:VV appears as not comparable
wind and seastate
relative position to land(distance, position) and main direction of mevement
vv was accompanied had some assistance by lots of other RM ships
position of damage
Bismarck detonation on contact with ships hull beneath the ruddercompartmants
VV detonation on a screw
Garyt wrote:Yamato had an auxiliary rudder, but in testing it wasn't able to turn the ship.
Funny how much luck plays a role. Between them the Yamato and Musahi were hit by 30 or so torpedoes - and not one to my knowledge took the rudder out.
acccording to Bagnasco, main rudder was jamed in Vitorio Veneto by the explosion
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