Steve Crandell wrote:You are assuming Stalin does not invade Germany. I don't think that is necessarily a safe assumption.
RF wrote:You could alternatively consider an alternative scenario.
Suppose in September 1940 Hitler signed up the USSR to the axis alliance instead of Japan.
This is feasible, in that the USSR could support Germany in the West while Germany backs the USSR in a full scale war against Japan, including sending Panzer and Luftwaffe forces to eastern Siberia.
RF wrote:You have missed my point about Russian help.
Ground and ait forces, whilst numerous, would not be very effective as a back up to Sea Lion, but the Russians could offer substantial logistical support in the form of boats and shipping plus surface escort vessels, additional to what the Germans would have. This would be a different scenario to your point about Soviet capability of mounting a seaborne invasion on their own.
I might add that individual NKVD units in 1941 were very effective as elite troops (as they were in early Barbarossa) as opposed to the Soviet Army as a whole, which would be useful in the early stages of an invasion, backing up Waffen SS units.
Paul L wrote:Germans already had sufficient shipping to launch a cross channel invasion by mid 1941. With 100 MFP & 240 Seibel ferries PLUS 1700 converted river barges -most motorized...and 150 merchant ships. The real problem would be lack of enough good escorts & destroyers etc [ 19 DD 47 TB & 100 M-Boot/aux ] . However they would have 5 surface raiders plus 280 U-boats to seriously dilute allied coastal defences /convoy escorts. Finally hundreds of fishing vessels had been taken in hand and were being converted to V-Boot to add to the existing 200 RB/SB.
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