Yeah, you got it on your second guess. The battlecruiser HMS Queen Mary blew up at Jutland after the SMS Seydlitz hit her. Only nine of her crew survived after she went KABOOM (reminds me an awful lot of a ship called HMS Hood ) In light of this fact she deserves to be called Bloody Mary
Sorry Ramius, but that first photo can't be in Montevideo. The Spee is in plain grey - has to be a pre-war photo - but a great one at that. Her sailors look so "peaceful" on her fo'c'sle.
In Montevideo she had camo on her turrets and upperworks, a big white false bow wave and a big hole in her port bow from a shell hit.
Here's Graf Spee in Montevideo
Paul
Qui invidet minor est - He who envies is the lesser man
I almost forgot about Mers-el-Kebir (the biggest strategical mistake the Royal Navy made in the 20th century)! That reminds me also of the scuttling at Toulon:
Ramius wrote: I almost forgot about Mers-el-Kebir (the biggest strategical mistake the Royal Navy made in the 20th century)! That reminds me also of the scuttling at Toulon:
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Mind starting a thread where you explain why you think this is the case?
Mind starting a thread where you explain why you think this is the case?
No one has to justify his opinions to you! I don´t agree with him in this particular case but it´s his opinion, period.
I didn't say he had to I simply requested that he do so. I was/am wondering why and thought he might share his thoughts with the rest of us but didn't want to divert this thread. I have now made a request and explained it and see no reason to continue with this on this thread.
The above image of the Admiral Graf Spee (the pre-war dated photo) should be portraying the Graf Spee in Hamburg to welcome the Legion Kondor returning from Spain aboard the KdF ("Strength through Joy") passenger liners between 29 - 31 May 1939. The white ensign in her mast should indicate that the C-in-C of the fleet, Admiral Böhm, is aboard.