V1 engines.

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V1 engines.

Post by paul.mercer » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:19 pm

Gentlemen,
The German jet aircraft are well documented, but before that did they ever try to propel a manned aircraft with the pulse jet engines from a V1 or were they just too dangerous?

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Re: V1 engines.

Post by lwd » Sat Aug 20, 2011 2:11 pm

I think I read they at least thought of building a manned version of the V-1 although that may be a myth. The wiki page does give some info that might be of interest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-1_flying_bomb
Beginning in January 1941, the V-1's pulse jet engine was also tested on a variety of craft, including automobiles[7] and an experimental attack boat known as the "Tornado". The unsuccessful prototype was a version of a Sprengboot, in which a boat loaded with explosives was steered towards a target ship and the pilot would leap out of the back at the last moment. The Tornado was assembled from surplus seaplane hulls connected in catamaran fashion with a small pilot cabin on the cross beams. The Tornado prototype was a noisy underperformer and was abandoned in favour of more conventional piston engined craft.

The engine made its first flight aboard a Gotha Go 145 on 30 April 1941.
This may have been what I was thinking of which would tend to indicate that the manned V-1 was a myth:
A myth arose that early guidance and stabilisation problems were resolved by a daring test flight by Hanna Reitsch in a V-1 modified for manned operation.
But this indicates otherwise:
Late in the war, several air-launched piloted V-1s, known as Reichenbergs, were built, but never used in combat.
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n 1943, an Argus pulse jet engine was shipped to Japan by German submarine. The Aeronautical Institute of Tokyo Imperial University and the Kawanishi Aircraft Company conducted a joint study of the feasibility of mounting a similar engine on a piloted plane. The resulting design was based on the Fieseler Fi-103 Reichenberg (Fi 103R, a piloted V-1), and was named Baika ("plum blossom").

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Re: V1 engines.

Post by tommy303 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:35 pm

It appears the Hanna Reitsch myth actually came from testing being done on a manned version for piloted V1's to be used operationally

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fieseler_F ... henberg%29

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Re: V1 engines.

Post by RF » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:05 pm

paul.mercer wrote:Gentlemen,
The German jet aircraft are well documented, but before that did they ever try to propel a manned aircraft with the pulse jet engines from a V1 or were they just too dangerous?
By its nature the pulse engine I would have thought to be too dangerous and uncontroillable for a conventional plane - also I think such an aircraft would be very short ranged.
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