Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

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Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby Kyler » Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:54 pm

Admiral Jackie Fisher famous for his efforts in the creation of the HMS Dreadnought, destroyers, torpedoes, and many other inventions and advancements in the Royal Navy.

He is also accredited in some sources for the creation of what land based mobile weapon? Please don't use Wikipedia to find the answer. :negative:
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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby Kyler » Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:29 pm

I'll give a hint. This invention was created while he served in Egypt.
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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby Bgile » Sat Sep 26, 2009 5:06 pm

Kyler wrote:I'll give a hint. This invention was created while he served in Egypt.


I don't think it was the Camel. I have no idea.

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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby Kyler » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:11 pm

LOL, no but nice try :D
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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby José M. Rico » Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:46 pm

I have no idea either.
Let's try... a mortar to fire over the sand dunes! :D

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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby Kyler » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:08 pm

No, but it does involve at least one weapon that fires large projectile.
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Postby Terje Langoy » Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:24 pm

Quoted from Wiki...

Inflexible took part in the 1882 Anglo-Egyptian War, bombarding the port of Alexandria as part of Admiral Seymour's fleet. Fisher was placed in charge of a landing party which was quartered in the Khedive's palace. Lacking means of reconnaissance he devised a plan to armour a train with iron plates, machine gun and cannon. This became celebrated and widely reported by correspondents, so that its inventor, Fisher, came to the attention of the public for the first time as a hero. Shore duty had the unfortunate effect that Fisher became seriously ill with dysentery and malaria. He refused to take sick leave, but eventually was ordered home by Lord Northbrook who commented, 'the Admiralty could build another Inflexible, but not another Fisher'.

Sorry to spoil the puzzle but that being said I did honestly suspect the railroad gun before I decided to check Wiki...

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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby Kyler » Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:17 am

Terje is correct, you win imaginary trophy.

Fisher while in command of the HMS Inflexible, in Egypt is accredited in the invention of the armored train. He had a train used for recon, with armor plates, 3 Gatling Guns, and a breech loading naval gun.
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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby RF » Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:46 am

Weren't armoured trains to some extent used in the American Civil War?
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Postby Kyler » Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:50 pm

Yes, but they were not intended on being used as an offensive weapons, nor were they as far as I know us armed with weapons that could be used by a moving train.
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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby RF » Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:25 pm

I believe that some trains were armed with cannon, and also equipment for ripping up the tracks behind them on raids into enemy territory......in other words used as a form of what we now call guerilla warfare.
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Re: Adm. Jackie Fisher Invented What Land Based Weapon?

Postby lwd » Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:47 pm

Here's an Osprey book on ACW military railroading:
http://www.ospreypublishing.com/store/A ... 1846034527
This url talks of armored trains and those with artillery for firing on the move
http://www.historynet.com/railroads-cri ... il-war.htm
as does this one:
http://digitalcommons.unl.edu/dissertations/AAI9538638/
This one mentions there use in the Franco Prussian war as well
http://www.korns.org/misc/Civil-War-Armored-Trains.htm
This one mentions Austro-Hungarians armoring trains in 1848 but I didn't see mention of arming them:
http://books.google.com/books?id=T1HHGU ... ed&f=false


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