The German Dreadnought Kaiserin
The German Dreadnought Kaiserin
Is the Kaiserin the only dreadnought ever given a name of the female gender?
I am aware of the RN having ships called Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary, but these names were used as a masculine diminutive, whereas Kaiserin has no actual military semblance that I am aware of.
If indeed there is no military semblance then presumably it is or was a departure of the Germans from naming their ships after military commanders and more distant military hereos such as Frederick the Great, what would the reason be for that?
I am aware of the RN having ships called Queen Elizabeth and Queen Mary, but these names were used as a masculine diminutive, whereas Kaiserin has no actual military semblance that I am aware of.
If indeed there is no military semblance then presumably it is or was a departure of the Germans from naming their ships after military commanders and more distant military hereos such as Frederick the Great, what would the reason be for that?
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Re: The German Dreadnought Kaiserin
I don't understand what you're asking.
The British had a few female names, and the Russians also used a couple.
The British had a few female names, and the Russians also used a couple.
Hi RF.
I'm a bit puzzled too.
Kaiserin was the wife of the Kaiser and so there was nothing wrong in naming a vessel after her.
Queen Mary was the wife of George V and thus the battlecruiser that died at Jutland bore her name.
Off the top of my head, HMS Erin was another (British) female name.
I'm a bit puzzled too.
Kaiserin was the wife of the Kaiser and so there was nothing wrong in naming a vessel after her.
Queen Mary was the wife of George V and thus the battlecruiser that died at Jutland bore her name.
Off the top of my head, HMS Erin was another (British) female name.
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This is indeed my point - the empress was only the consort of the Kaiser and not the reigning monarch in her own right.iankw wrote:
I think RF means the Germans don't seem to have used female names for ships. I am sure he will clarify what he means momentarily.
Ian
War being seen as a male preserve - particulary in Germany - it seems unusual in using feminine titles for an instrument of battle, not very macho.
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There is indeed a Port Erin on the Isle of Man, although I haven't delved into it very deep. I also noted a Wiki reference to Erin as "a romatic name for Ireland used by 19th century poets....", I couldn't follow that up because everytime I open Wiki it crashes my puter!!!
So it's either or for that one.
Ian
So it's either or for that one.
Ian
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to add some more names of "female" ships/boats in the Kaiser's Navy:
Amazone
Ariadne
Alice Roosevelt
Freya
Herta
Kaiserin Auguste
Koenigin Luise
Niobe
Nymphe
Undine
Alexandrine
Victoria Luise
oh I forgot Medusa, Elisabeth, and Loreley
I can't think of any WWII Kriegsmarine ships with female names (Nymphe II was a floating AA battery ex Tordenskjoeld)
Amazone
Ariadne
Alice Roosevelt
Freya
Herta
Kaiserin Auguste
Koenigin Luise
Niobe
Nymphe
Undine
Alexandrine
Victoria Luise
oh I forgot Medusa, Elisabeth, and Loreley
I can't think of any WWII Kriegsmarine ships with female names (Nymphe II was a floating AA battery ex Tordenskjoeld)
Ulrich
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I don't know the whole story, but the Kaiser and Teddy Roosevelt were fond of each other. Teddy's daughter Alice ("Princess Alice or the wild animal in good clothes) christened the Kaiser Willi's yacht METEOR (there were 5 SMY Meteors). http://www.scripophily.net/toshconewyo1.html
Ulrich
But some WW2 German ships did have American and Latin American place names, such as Tacoma, Portland, Niagara, Rio de Janeiro and of course Bismarck!Ulrich Rudofsky wrote:
can't think of any WWII Kriegsmarine ships with female names (Nymphe II was a floating AA battery ex Tordenskjoeld)
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