Kyler wrote:During the 1st World War, both commanded their countries battlecrusier squadrons. Both had distinguished careers which lead to each eventually heading up each navy respectively. You can take into account the size of their respective forces and the quality of ships & sailors in them. If you were either a British or German sailor who would you serve under and why?
I would personally choose Scheer. Beatty was a good admiral but his leadership style in battle was to "gung-ho." Beatty often rushed or made unusual decisions, and filled his ranks with personal he liked but may have not otherwise qualified for their posts. His communication practices were adequate at best to downright horrible in some instances. Beatty's battlecrusier fleet was well known in the RN to have less than par gunnery skills, though this was partially caused by their base location during the war.
Scheer for the most part was a cool commander in combat. He proved himself an excellent leader at Jutland, and knew when to cut his losses in the Battle for Dogger Bank. His ships had excellent track record in battle, and his sailor’s gunnery skills were excellent. All his ships and sailors fought well in dire situations, with the SMS Blucher fighting to the last second at Dogger Bank, and his battlecruisers keeping in line and fighting with the High Seas Fleet after taking a horrible beating from the 1st, 2nd BCS & 5th BS during Jutland.
Hipper was the best over commander at Jutland, and his command at Dogger Bank was good also. Only Beatty's poor decision led to Scheers escape at Dogger, but Beatty gung-ho attitude and poor communications ruined his chances at Dogger and Jutland.
Byron Angel wrote:If it is a question of serving under one or the other in a naval battle, it is Hipper without a moment's hesitation.
For all his personal charisma and physical courage, Beatty was a poor tactician on his best day. The battlecruiser force was IIRC his very first multi-ship command and it showed.
Karl Heidenreich wrote:Just look at Beatty's casualties in comparison of those of Hipper... in ships and men. No doubt that Hipper is the closest thing to a life insurance.
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