Jutland recurrent themes

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Re: Jutland recurrent themes

Postby delcyros » Mon Nov 07, 2011 11:59 am

The best book on the battle aviable still remains to be:
J.Campbell, Jutland, An Analysis of the Fighting

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Re: Jutland recurrent themes

Postby Ersatz Yorck » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:30 am

delcyros wrote:The best book on the battle aviable still remains to be:
J.Campbell, Jutland, An Analysis of the Fighting


I agree! Tarrant's "Jutland - The German Perspective" is also good, and not all abot the Germans.

Castles of Steel is a good read, but contains a number of errors and sweeping statements.

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Re: Jutland recurrent themes

Postby mike1880 » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:32 am

I was disappointed by Tarrant, there isn't nearly as much German perspective in it as I expected. I've given my copy away.

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Re: Jutland recurrent themes

Postby Ersatz Yorck » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:14 pm

That is correct, Tarrant is not so much German perspective as one might think from the title. It does use German sources more than most other books. IMHO it is one of the best general histories of the battle, and it has excellent maps. It also passes the standard test for naval histories: It has positions in Latitude and Longitude.

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Re: Jutland recurrent themes

Postby simonharley » Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:01 am

All that needs to be said about Tarrant is that he quotes, without quotation marks or attribution, a whole portion of Marder's conclusion about Jutland from "From the Dreadnought to Scapa Flow" Volume III Second Edition. Not very original. I'll stick with the stuff in English from the archives without relying on someone else to muff it up.

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Re: Jutland recurrent themes

Postby Ersatz Yorck » Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:20 am

simonharley wrote:All that needs to be said about Tarrant is that he quotes, without quotation marks or attribution, a whole portion of Marder's conclusion about Jutland from "From the Dreadnought to Scapa Flow" Volume III Second Edition. Not very original. I'll stick with the stuff in English from the archives without relying on someone else to muff it up.

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Oh, I didn't know that. That's pretty sneaky. Not good at all. I still liked the book however.

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Re: Jutland recurrent themes

Postby Byron Angel » Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:33 am

Ersatz Yorck wrote:
simonharley wrote:All that needs to be said about Tarrant is that he quotes, without quotation marks or attribution, a whole portion of Marder's conclusion about Jutland from "From the Dreadnought to Scapa Flow" Volume III Second Edition. Not very original. I'll stick with the stuff in English from the archives without relying on someone else to muff it up.

Simon


Oh, I didn't know that. That's pretty sneaky. Not good at all. I still liked the book however.





..... One of the redeeming features of Tarrant is that his maps identify areas of lingering funnel and gun smoke which interfered with visibility later in the battle.


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