David wrote:On the other hand, SMS GOEBEN, a good WWI German battlecruiser design; tough, hard hitting and fast; yet she didn't really do much herself. Was she unsuccessful? She was doubtless the most influential ship in the history of the world.
David wrote: ... I've seen her listed sometimes as a BB and others as an Armoured Cruiser. Was she a "Second Class" BB later rated as an Armoured Cruiser? If so, was that a function of obsolesence or a change in rating?
David wrote:I should have added that If Turkey had remained neutral in WWI, the British would have been unable to claim the ruins of the Ottoman Empire
David wrote:By bringing the Turks into the war, she precipated the Gallipoli campaign, the defeat of which led to the Russian Revolution and the creation of the Soviet Union.
Jellicoe wrote:David wrote:
SMS GOEBEN,..... She was doubtless the most influential ship in the history of the world.
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