Sink the Bismarck (1960)

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Sink the Bismarck (1960)

Postby cascoskuro » Fri Nov 26, 2004 3:14 pm

Hi!

What's the opinion of each one about this film?
Sink the Bismarck: 20th Century Fox, 1960. Kenneth More, Dana Wynter, Lewis Gilbert (director).
I think that it's an excellent moment for a new version!

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Postby Javier L. » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:39 am

I saw it many years ago and I liked it but don't remember much more. Now I want to get the DVD. A new version would be great! I would reserve my ticket at once.

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Re: Sink the Bismarck

Postby RF » Wed Nov 01, 2006 2:48 pm

cascoskuro wrote:Hi!

What's the opinion of each one about this film?
Sink the Bismarck: 20th Century Fox, 1960. Kenneth More, Dana Wynter, Lewis Gilbert (director).
I think that it's an excellent moment for a new version!


Having seen this film many times it is time for a remake, without the mistakes, and irrelevant sub-plots.
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Postby Karl Heidenreich » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:11 pm

RF:

Having seen this film many times it is time for a remake, without the mistakes, and irrelevant sub-plots.


The subplots are necessary for dramatic purposes. That´s not the problem but how you do it. Yesterday I posted something about it in the Spanish part of this forum.
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Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby StRangers » Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:12 am

There are some high quality scenes from this 1960 movie that do not look to be archival footage. Does anyone know if the HMS Vangard might have been used for some of the interior turret shots from the Hood scene?
I'd image that the Vangard was the only surviving British Battleship at the time of this filming.
It's truely a disgrace that the Brits could not have preserved ONE single Dreadnaught as a memorial or museum ship.
How could they possibly have scrapped a legend like the HMS Warspite.

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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby tommy303 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 4:27 pm

Yes. The loading sequences were filmed during one of, if not the last practice shoot conducted by Vanguard.

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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby dougieo » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:23 pm

Where some of the external shots of the turrets taken on her as well, from memory they looked to have been the increased elevation mods done to them.

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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby tommy303 » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:33 pm

Again, yes.

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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby RF » Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:37 pm

It is a pity that some of the work here by the filmakers and attention to detail didn't extend to the actual plot of the film itself......
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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby dunmunro » Fri Apr 29, 2011 7:46 am

They did invent some fictional names and even gave Bismarck an AA kill, but, by and large it was pretty accurate, IMHO.

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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby Bgile » Fri Apr 29, 2011 8:22 am

dunmunro wrote:They did invent some fictional names and even gave Bismarck an AA kill, but, by and large it was pretty accurate, IMHO.


Yes, but there was also the destroyer who's bow was blown off by a 15" hit in the movie.

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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby Seekanone » Fri Apr 29, 2011 2:56 pm

The destroyer supposedly sunk was the "Solun" (SP?) during Bismarck's last night fight. There were some scenes of men jumping overboard that appear to have been made from a cruiser and not HMS Vanguard. Please correct me if I am wrong.
The scenes using HMS Vanguard really lent an aura of authenticity to the film and unfortunately, could not be achieved today as all RN battleships are gone.
It would appear that computer graphics of today's documentaries Sunk by Bismarck, Hood vs Bismarck, In Search of Battleship Bismarck indicate that battle shots could be made extremely realistically. The models in the 1960 movie were excellent but not all that could have been achieved. :wink:

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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby RF » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:30 pm

The destroyer shown as being sunk was HMS Solent, named after the channel that separates the Isle of Wight from the English mainland. This destroyer was part of Vian's destroyer force. Only as far as I am aware there was no such ship and no destroyer was directly hit let alone sunk. The film I recall showed a torpedo hit on Bismarck that didn't happen on that last night.

The major errors were on the German side, especially the portrail of the character of Gunther Lutjens by Karel Stepanack. That is a matter of script and not film technology.
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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby Foggy » Tue May 03, 2011 2:53 pm

My "favorite" flaw is the models in the Denmark Strait battle going in the wrong direction, or firing on the wrong side, depending on how you look at it.

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Re: Sink the Bismark (1960)

Postby RF » Tue May 03, 2011 5:25 pm

I don't think think that was a case of deliberate ''improvement'' rather a cock up that nobody except pedants would notice.

Incidently there was also the ''explosion'' on POW's bridge, whereas in reality the shell didn't explode...... or the single hit reported to Lutjens by Lindemann, when in fact there were three.
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