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Ship data statistics needed

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:13 am
by neil hilton
Currently Im in the process of writing a tabletop naval wargame using small lead models and tape measures etc for WW2 naval battles. However Ive run into a problem regarding ship data. I have data on all the relevant weapons and penetration at ranges (based in inches) but I cant find a reliable source of data on ships armour rating in inches, the statistics I need are belt armour, belt ends, deck armour and deck ends thicknesses in inches. I also need a reasonable deck plan showing firing arcs. This is for every destroyer, cruiser and capital ship class of all the major navies of WW2 so I can design a ship data sheet for every class.
Does anybody know of where I can obtain this information on the net without having to pay for it and in the same format (so it doesnt need converting) and can be used in an Office document?

Re: Ship data statistics needed

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:36 pm
by marcelo_malara
You need to buy JaneĀ“s Warships of WWII. It is a reprint of the contemporary JanesĀ“, it contains some mistakes due to the secrecy of the belligerants, but it has sketches with the armour and firing arcs of most warships of the period.

Regards

Re: Ship data statistics needed

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:56 pm
by neil hilton
I already have a reprint of Janes WW2. Many ships entries armour thicknesses are noted as ...'reported to be equivalent of contemporary vessels of other navies...'

Re: Ship data statistics needed

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:13 pm
by marcelo_malara
Yes, some info may need to be obtained from other sources. I can not think of any single source that has all you want. Moreover, the armouring scheme is also important, a plate thickness figure will not do in some cases.

Re: Ship data statistics needed

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:05 pm
by neil hilton
Yes, I was thinking of applying a simple multiplication factor to the armour thickness depending on the quality of the armour with respect to a standard, in this case Krupp Cemented Plate.

Re: Ship data statistics needed

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:53 pm
by tommy303
One of the problems is not so much thickness or even quality of the armour, but how it is arranged; for instance, Bismarck and Scharnhorst classes used an armoured scarp behind the main armour belt which was intended to break up a shell which might otherwise have penetrated the belt armour intact. Simply adding the thickness of the scarp to that of the main belt is insufficient and will probably not duplicate the degree of effectiveness.