Original plans?
Original plans?
Does anyone know if some copies of the original designs of Bismarck still exist?
I was wondering to realiza a hull using...steel, but obviusly I need the original design of all the bulkheads and so on...
I know it's mad but...
I was wondering to realiza a hull using...steel, but obviusly I need the original design of all the bulkheads and so on...
I know it's mad but...
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Re: Original plans?
Matthias wrote:I know it's mad but...
Not mad at all . She's going to be very heavy my friend .
What scale are you thinking of using? Something like 1:350 would be imposable to do as the steel would be to thin.
Regards Steve
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Ah! My friend you will find that even a 1:100 ship in steel will have some extremely thin areas . 10mm = 0.1mm and there are 3mm (or less ) sheet metal parts that you will have a nightmare with.
Composite materials may be the way to go and you will still have a good ship.
Regards Steve
Composite materials may be the way to go and you will still have a good ship.
Regards Steve
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Hello,
I know there are nice plans of the Bismarck... About the Tirpitz I found nothing, but that doesn't matter it is a difference of 2mm, so what?
I saw the plans on a site with alot of books; Look for the books about German Warships or the Bismarck(or maybe Tirpitz). There i found 2 nice plans, but they're in polish...
Bye,
The Captain
btw: Me and my friend(both 14) are trying to make a scratch build Tirpitz at a scale 1:100, it's our first ship
I know there are nice plans of the Bismarck... About the Tirpitz I found nothing, but that doesn't matter it is a difference of 2mm, so what?
I saw the plans on a site with alot of books; Look for the books about German Warships or the Bismarck(or maybe Tirpitz). There i found 2 nice plans, but they're in polish...
Bye,
The Captain
btw: Me and my friend(both 14) are trying to make a scratch build Tirpitz at a scale 1:100, it's our first ship
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Hello Matthias
Many original plans of German KM ships were kept in Berlin in the Naval Institute there (the actual name of the institute escapes me right now).
In 1945, EVERYTHING was taken by the Russians and shiped back to Moscow.
In 1990, after Germany was re-united, a train carrying a "special cargo" from Moscow reached Berlin. The cargo was 40 tons of documents and plans taken in 1945.
Amongst them, were a lot ship plans and other ship related documents.
They used a big Sporthalle to house them at first, after that, they mooved the whole lot to Flensburg, Germany, for a propper sorting out. Unfortunatelly works are VERY SLOW over there it it will take DECADES to record everything gathered there.
Info taken from a relliable source within Blohm & Voss, I don't want to name the source
The Harhaus plans is your best option on this one.
I wouldn't even bother with Bundesarchiv / Militärarchiv ...
@Captain of the Tirpitz
It is very encouraging that you and your friend (both aged 14) are even interested with this subject
Best wishes on your project
George
Many original plans of German KM ships were kept in Berlin in the Naval Institute there (the actual name of the institute escapes me right now).
In 1945, EVERYTHING was taken by the Russians and shiped back to Moscow.
In 1990, after Germany was re-united, a train carrying a "special cargo" from Moscow reached Berlin. The cargo was 40 tons of documents and plans taken in 1945.
Amongst them, were a lot ship plans and other ship related documents.
They used a big Sporthalle to house them at first, after that, they mooved the whole lot to Flensburg, Germany, for a propper sorting out. Unfortunatelly works are VERY SLOW over there it it will take DECADES to record everything gathered there.
Info taken from a relliable source within Blohm & Voss, I don't want to name the source
The Harhaus plans is your best option on this one.
I wouldn't even bother with Bundesarchiv / Militärarchiv ...
@Captain of the Tirpitz
It is very encouraging that you and your friend (both aged 14) are even interested with this subject
Best wishes on your project
George
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Hi George,
All documents which were handed back by the Russians in the Nineties have been sorted and registered. All these documents were then transported to the Bundesarchiv /Militärarchiv in Freiburg where they are now stored and accessible to the public (at no mean costs!)
Best regards
Shipbuilder
(your reliable source from Blohm+Voss)
All documents which were handed back by the Russians in the Nineties have been sorted and registered. All these documents were then transported to the Bundesarchiv /Militärarchiv in Freiburg where they are now stored and accessible to the public (at no mean costs!)
Best regards
Shipbuilder
(your reliable source from Blohm+Voss)
best regards
Shipbuilder
Shipbuilder
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Hello shipbuilder
Nice to hear from you again
Good to know that the documents are registered and accessible know by the public
Take care, best regards from Greece.
Keep up the ...shipbuilding
Nice to hear from you again
Good to know that the documents are registered and accessible know by the public
Take care, best regards from Greece.
Keep up the ...shipbuilding
"Ich lasse mir doch mein Schiff nicht unter dem Arsch wegschiessen. Feuererlaubnis !"
George "tango-echo" Roumbos, Hellas
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