Bracketed -- Hazard a guess?

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Bracketed -- Hazard a guess?

Post by marty1 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:51 pm

Can anyone identify the ship behind the pillars of spray and smoke clouds?

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Post by pdfox99 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:27 pm

Looks like a British ship. They usually have vertical stacks. Not sure of the name yet.
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Post by pdfox99 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:28 pm

Then again... It wouldn't be the Admiral Graff Spee would it?
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Post by foeth » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:10 pm

Tripod masts and a straight stem, single port anchor, unequal funnels, looks like a WWI RN BC?

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Post by marty1 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:10 pm

Hi Paul:

I honestly don't know what ship it is. I was hoping someone with a keen eye for detail could give me a hint. My first guess was British as well -- its not a Queen Elizabeth Class battleship is it? Warspite or a sister ship?

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Re: Bracketed -- Hazard a guess?

Post by Tiornu » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:07 pm

My guess is that it's HMS Centurion during her time as a target. She had two funnels, the first one wider than the second, and the "naked" sort of foremast that appears in this picture.
Let me qualify this by saying my ship recognition skills are minimal. I can tell the difference between Queen Elizabeth and the Queen Elizabeth...usually.

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Post by Ulrich Rudofsky » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:19 pm

I have to agree with Tiornu that this is HMS Centurion as a target ship
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/c ... 0Centurion
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Re: Bracketed -- Hazard a guess?

Post by marty1 » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:27 pm

Tiornu wrote:My guess is that it's HMS Centurion during her time as a target. She had two funnels, the first one wider than the second, and the "naked" sort of foremast that appears in this picture.
Let me qualify this by saying my ship recognition skills are minimal. I can tell the difference between Queen Elizabeth and the Queen Elizabeth...usually.
I think your right. You win a cookie. Pretty good eye.

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Re: Bracketed -- Hazard a guess?

Post by Tiornu » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:13 am

Wow. If I can guess one of these, who knows? Maybe the Mets can take the NL East.

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Re: Bracketed -- Hazard a guess?

Post by Patrick McWilliams » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:50 am

Hi Marty,

I see that you have "reversed" a photo in support of your case...

Is this a (rare..) example of reversible photos that no one on this forum disagrees with?

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Post by Gerard Heimann » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:50 pm

Good work, Tiornu! As miraculous as you think your work is here, it would pale next to the Mets winning the NL East. The next couple of weeks will tell. Coming from a forlorn LA Dodger fan.

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Post by marty1 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:40 pm

Gerard Heimann wrote:Good work, Tiornu! As miraculous as you think your work is here, it would pale next to the Mets winning the NL East. The next couple of weeks will tell. Coming from a forlorn LA Dodger fan.
Personally I'm a forlorn Mariners fan. I've been waiting for a couple years now for these guys to come back from a rebuilding team to contenders. I think we need Lou Pinella back. Besides, it was always fun watching him wrench first base out of the ground and pitch it across the field.

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Post by marty1 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:57 pm

Patrick McWilliams wrote:Hi Marty,

I see that you have "reversed" a photo in support of your case...

Is this a (rare..) example of reversible photos that no one on this forum disagrees with?

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Patrick -- Your right! When I was comparing position and geometry of the funnels and mast in the two photos I should have left the one Centurion image in an unreversed format. It makes much more sense now. Thanks for your help.

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Post by marty1 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:11 pm

Something else I just noticed. If you look at the Centurion image in negative, and turn it upside down, you can just make out what appears to be the image of Paul McCartney holding three puppies. Of course the three puppies obviously symbolize the other three Beatles. This is a clear sign that Paul treated the other three Beatles like dogs.

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Post by _Derfflinger_ » Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:12 pm

Can anyone tell me about target ships, like HMS Centurion? I know USS Utah served in the same capacity for the USN until she was sunk on December 7, 1941. How did they perform their role and survive?

What are these guys shooting at poor Centurion with? Practice rounds or real ammunition? (The shell splashes look significant!). Was there a crew aboard or was Centurion running under radio control?

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