lwd wrote:You really should supply more background info with your PODs. For instance a very significant question is what's the status of the Japanese naval air after the battle? It's not going to be in great shape but do all their CV survive and in what shape how about losses to naval air?
lwd wrote:Note also that they may well be better off if they don't capture Midway.
lwd wrote:In the long run they are overwhelmed pretty much along historical lines. The collapse may even come quicker if they get more aggressive.
minoru genda wrote:...
Yes all IJN CVs survive undamaged. A considerable number of aircraft and pilots are lost and it will take a couple of months to replace I guess but the ships are fine.
...My scenario is more about the the first because historically the Japs wanted to land 5,000 men at Midway but it's ok.
In case number 2 if the Japs dont take Midway, how much trouble would the Americans have to supply Midway? Could it become a "bleading ulcer" (like you once said) for the US? Japanese subs would be around.
...I think we all agree in the long run the Japs get overwhelmed but let's talk about how and when. Let's say the Japs get the Salomon's after Midway and then go to the defensive.
Bgile wrote:Well, Japan just helped it's submarine problem, because US Submarines based in PY will now have to travel about 2500 miles more to get to and from their operating area. The Japanese now have a recon and submarine fueling station less than 1500 miles form PH. The US will need to begin harrassing that base asap.
The US is now faced with trying to hold the line in the SW Pacific while preparing to take back Midway. I don't pretend to know enough to be able to predict what happens, but the loss of the carriers plus the survival of the Japanese carriers is huge and might set back US offensive action for a year, just as a guess. That assumes the "Germany first" plan stays intact.
Karl Heidenreich wrote:August 1945: european born, bred and educated scientists have built the A-Bomb for the US Goverment in order to prevent Hitler to have it first. But Hitler is dead and Germany defeated against numerical masive superior forces. The Bomb will be dropped by a B-29 against Japanese cities. USA wons the war.
Hello Karl. Let's say that after years of fierce Japanese defense in the Pacific in August 1945 the US has still not taken the Marianas. Is Japan in range of the B-29? From where could the B-29s take off?
Karl Heidenreich wrote: The other alternative is a "Doolitle" kind of attack in order to deliver the bomb and then crash land the plane somewhere in China. ....
Why not just launch from and return to China?
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