Hello everybody,
@ CAG,
I have the Pitcairn-Jones as well as all the other documents in original, I just asked you to participate and post them even if in summary, for everybody benefit in the forum, ... just like I always do, ... because this should be the intent of this forum, ... the sharing of opinions and documents, ... competences with no pre-conceived view or a ridicolous " side taken " blind and stupid approach some are lately showing here in.
I respect everybody view and opinion, ... and I pretend everybody to respect mine too, ... of course I respect the opinion of Roskill and Pitcairns-Jones that are no longer with us, ... 2 very competent historians, ... even if I found several evaluation errors on their works too.
But we are all human and we can all fail, ... including me.
The story of those messages in really an intriguing one.
Without Sir W. Churchill writing on his 3rd book on page 282 his fact version, ... I was even considering Adm Tovey to have mixed up and confused some messages he received.
Now, after a more careful analysis I am more willing to accept the fact that the message Tovey talked about on his letters, could really have been delivered/received as he and Churchill wrote, ... and it was later " expunged " from the records by Adm Pound.
The fact that the 11:37 was not " expunged " as Adm Pound guaranteed to Adm Tovey seems confirming this too.
RearAdm Power message to Tovey about the Bay of Biscay weather forecast seems going in that direction too, ... the direction of the " shores of France ", ... and this is for sure.
I am OK with both solutions anyhow, ... even if we will realize that both Churchill and Tovey mixed up a bit their memories, ... because surely Churchill mixed up the things before Tovey and in this case surely caused Tovey to refer to his timing error too on his explanations after.
Tovey discovered that it was Churchill the source/responsible after the war, from Churchill book, and probably started connecting what he knew whit the new Churchill event timing revelations and put obviously the all things together trying to realize what really happened and when in that War Room during the 26th and 27th of May.
Roskill and Pitcairn-Jones both used Kennedy way to read the message situation, ... and we know Kennedy failed on his book Pursuit several other evaluations and was always trying to sell a " nice novel " and a positive story for the Royal Navy.
I understand the reason for that to be, ... but I am looking for the historical truth now and not to fit a complex story and sell it in a positive way for the British readers like Kennedy did and others used because it was convenient instead of dig a bit more and write the truth about it, ... even if not conclusive and still with a " grey area" to be analyzed.
Bye Antonio
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