Secundary guns turrets

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Secundary guns turrets

Post by marcelo_malara » Sat Jun 27, 2020 6:56 pm

Hi. In Bower´s AOTS it can be seen that the forward turrets had an under deck structure, just like main guns´ ones, with a lower shell and powder room. The four after ones do not have this. Were the loading arrangements different between both?

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Post by Herr Nilsson » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:31 pm

Yes. The ammunition had to be transported on tweendeck via slides through the splinter bulkhead.
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Post by marcelo_malara » Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:51 pm

Thanks Marc! How was this in other navies?

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Post by Steve Crandell » Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:11 pm

In the USN, 5" mounts typically had a handling room directly below them and the magazine below that. That was pretty much true from BBs on down to DDs.

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Post by marcelo_malara » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:13 pm

Marc, in Brower´s book there are two scuttles in the barbette, they do not show up in your plan. Which is correct?

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Re: Secundary guns turrets

Post by Herr Nilsson » Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:51 am

marcelo_malara wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:13 pm
...in Brower´s book...
What page?
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Re: Secundary guns turrets

Post by marcelo_malara » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:29 pm

Pages 42 and 43, upper plan.

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Re: Secundary guns turrets

Post by Herr Nilsson » Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:10 pm

Thanks!

Brower is just more detailed. My plan shows the way of the ammuniton from piles on deck into the magazines and from there to each weapons. It shows just doors used for ammunition transport purposes.
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Re: Secundary guns turrets

Post by marcelo_malara » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:00 am

The new Bismarck´s book mentions that a secondary turret´s crew became locked in their post because the turret scuttle was deformed and could not be opened. Why couldn´t they escape from below deck?

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