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by Byron Angel
Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:54 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
Replies: 120
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

On the subject of what happened with Lion between 16:00 and 16:09 Harper's recalculated navigation is available at: https://www.jutland1916.com/wp-content/uploads/051.jpg However unlike your splendid 100 year old maps these online renditions pixelate when you expand them sufficiently to show detail...
by Byron Angel
Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:59 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
Replies: 120
Views: 5020

Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

Reading the Chalmers quote again it seems to me he was on a lower platform than Chatfield. The Marine Sergeant reaches him first and in his dazed state asks if he, Chalmers, is the Captain, and having explained once, he then moves up to reach Chatfield and makes his report again. How long does the ...
by Byron Angel
Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:40 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

Here is Chatfield (Navy and Defence) quoted in Grey Wastes: I heard a resounding "Clank!" behind me. Turning round from the compass which I was watching carefully to ensure the Chief Quartermaster below in the Conning Tower was steering that steady course which is so important for gunnery...
by Byron Angel
Tue Aug 02, 2022 5:05 am
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

My point in referencing Chalmers' account was to highlight that the plotting room was penetrated by shell splinters, so accurate recording of Lion's course might have been disrupted. Chatfield is quoted in Grey Wastes as saying he was informed by bridge personnel (not Chalmers) of the Q turret hit ...
by Byron Angel
Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:36 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

[ As HMSVF has pointed out there are human factors at work here. The excitement and fear causing sensory blocking of some information as distractions and then reaction setting in. Quoting Lieut William Chalmers on Lion's bridge (Jutland Death in the Grey Wastes): On the bridge we were blissfully ign...
by Byron Angel
Wed Jul 27, 2022 8:48 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

wm wrote - New Zealand seems to be on the Starboard quarter (wrong side for the line of bearing) from Tiger. Her range at 4:00 is 12,500 yds. It decrease to 10,800 yds at 4.02. Perhaps she is trying get to the correct line of bearing by taking advantage of the starboard turn triggered by Lion. Agai...
by Byron Angel
Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:12 am
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
Replies: 120
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

My impression is that Beatty's line were far more ragged than most plot would suggest. (It will be difficult for the Germans to plot the British accurately while the BCF (Beatty) have plenty of reasons to not show the true states of his line. >>>>> I had just about completed a lengthy response to t...
by Byron Angel
Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:18 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

Gentleman, In regards to HMS Indefatigable you may find this of interest... http://eprints.bournemouth.ac.uk/29391/5/ACCEPTED%20VERSION%20IJNA%20IJM%202017.pdf#:~:text=This%20finally%20occurred%20in%202015%20when%2C%20in%20conjunction,surveyed%20with%20high-grade%20swath%20bathymetry%20%28multibeam...
by Byron Angel
Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:09 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

The incident was shown pretty clearly from Lion's gunnery record http://dreadnoughtproject.org/tfs/index.php/H.M.S._Lion_at_the_Battle_of_Jutland Time target bearing 4.00 114 4.01 129 4.02 144 4.03 136 4.04 125 Notes, Range and gunnery information are omitted. Hi wm, Thank you very much (yet again)...
by Byron Angel
Sat Jul 23, 2022 6:19 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

Looking at the RN Manual of Seamanship 1937 the instruction should be "Alter course 5 degrees to starboard" for a course change whereas a direct rudder instruction should be in the format "Starboard 5 degrees". In both cases the helmsman repeats the order and when it has been ac...
by Byron Angel
Sat Jul 23, 2022 2:04 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Hood at Jutland
Replies: 7
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Re: Hood at Jutland

Hi HMSVF,
Your post just smacked me "upside the head" with something that I had never before thought about.
When exactly was HMS Hood formally named? Did it have anything to do with Admiral Hood's heroic death at Jutland?

Or was it simply a sort of cosmic coincidence?

B
by Byron Angel
Fri Jul 22, 2022 5:14 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

Re the mystery of Lion’s Turn away - Chatfield’s account from his memoir “Navy and Defence” (p.142) It was not long after the disaster to the “Indefatigable”, that I heard a resounding clank behind me.” (referring to the hit on “Q” turret @ approximately 3:57?) <snip> “It was at this moment, seeing...
by Byron Angel
Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:31 am
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
Replies: 120
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

HI Byron, Can we just clarify something? I think I've just realised something (slow to catch on) Brooks (which I have yet to see) and you had already figured out. There was no big turn to starboard, if the suggestion is that it was one great arc. I'm looking at the series of turns to starboard made...
by Byron Angel
Thu Jul 21, 2022 2:07 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
Replies: 120
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

Two other "private party" technological developments I omitted from my previous post -
Range clock = Dumaresq.
Data/Bearing transmitters = Evershed.

Byron
by Byron Angel
Thu Jul 21, 2022 6:19 am
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?
Replies: 120
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Re: Was the H.M.S Hood the most powerful ship for 20 years?

Hi Byron, Firstly I want to second wmh829386's thanks for bringing excellent source material to the debate, the Naval Review article is clearly what Peter Padfield condensed in his comment about HMS New Zealand's Dogger Bank experience. As usual in the condensing loads of excellent, and often signi...