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by RF
Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:18 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Why didn't Lutjens go all out to destroy Norfolk and Suffolk?
Replies: 17
Views: 523

Re: Why didn't Lutjens go all out to destroy Norfolk and Suffolk?

I suppose the one thing that could have made a difference would have been an operational Graf Zeppelin... (If they could see the target) I suppose, but do you realize how many years it took the US, UK, and IJN to evolve working naval aviation? You really need a training CV, for one thing, but in an...
by RF
Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:49 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Why didn't Lutjens go all out to destroy Norfolk and Suffolk?
Replies: 17
Views: 523

Re: Why didn't Lutjens go all out to destroy Norfolk and Suffolk?

Using Prinz Eugen to attack the Suffolk on its own I think is risky, better to use the longer and heavier reach of Bismarck's guns? If close ship contact is an issue then keep Bismarck and Prinz Eugen together in joint attack, indeed Bismarck's fairly powerful secondary battery also comes into play ...
by RF
Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:30 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Why didn't Lutjens go all out to destroy Norfolk and Suffolk?
Replies: 17
Views: 523

Why didn't Lutjens go all out to destroy Norfolk and Suffolk?

Knowing that Rheinubung was subject to the Fuhrer inspired directive of ''no unnecessary risks'' and the dangers of torpedo attack in poor visibility one can initially understand the failure of Lutjens to order an all out attack on Wake-Walkers cruisers. However thinking rationally (and aggressively...
by RF
Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:09 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck radar detector
Replies: 139
Views: 5153

Re: Bismarck radar detector

As said, I think that other factors may have given to Lütjens staff the impression that BS was still shadowed at 07:00, but the only probable ones, in addition to radar signature detections (most logical), are radio messages identifiers / content wrongly interpreted. I concur with you about the lim...
by RF
Wed Dec 08, 2021 7:04 pm
Forum: Naval Technology
Topic: When it comes to warships, bigger is usually better.
Replies: 26
Views: 758

Re: When it comes to warships, bigger is usually better.

When it comes to warships, bigger is usually better, unless its an Austro-Hungarian battleship facing down an Italian motor torpedo boat. Or the Bismarck having its gunnery fire control position knocked out by a 8 inch direct hit by Norfolk. Mind you the Kormoran was bigger in size than HMAS Sydney ...
by RF
Wed Dec 08, 2021 6:56 pm
Forum: World Navies Today
Topic: Top ten most powerful navies in the world
Replies: 133
Views: 405556

Re: Top ten most powerful navies in the world

China's fleet is Pacific - or rather South China Sea centric - whereas the US Navy has worldwide commitments, particulary with NATO and facing off the USSR, sorry, yes its now called Russia. Comparison of the small size Kriegsmarine in 1939 with the strength of the RN proved to be as misleading in t...
by RF
Mon Nov 29, 2021 7:12 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck range
Replies: 44
Views: 1942

Re: Bismarck range

I'm not thinking of Hood being in general poor condition, but to her speed. My understanding is that Hood could only do some 28-29 knots in May 1941, but Lutjens chose to fight because he didn't think he could outrun Hood? If he had known this he probably would have avoided the fight? Not without r...
by RF
Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:34 am
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck range
Replies: 44
Views: 1942

Re: Bismarck range

One to two knots speed advantage probably only matters when you are trying to get away or closing the distance - and not not in a gunfight. A lone raider like Bismarck would probably not have been sent on the mission at all if she had been a 28+ knot ship and Britain's new KGVs had been 30+knot shi...
by RF
Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:03 pm
Forum: Naval History in General
Topic: This day exactly 80 years ago
Replies: 5
Views: 212

This day exactly 80 years ago

Today I spent a couple of quiet minutes reflecting on a naval battle that took place off the coast of Western Australia exactly 80 years ago today. No institutionalised two minutes silence, just quiet unobtrusive reflection on the 700 plus lives lost on both sides on this little known action between...
by RF
Wed Nov 17, 2021 7:09 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Range of Bismarck's guns
Replies: 17
Views: 1386

Re: Range of Bismarck's guns

Hi Bill, Just a thought, but in a straight 'stern chase' surely the ship running away (assuming that it had two aft turrets (or one four gun as on PoW) that ship would have just as much chance to land some damaging hits on the pursuing ship even possibly more so as the bridge and fire control would...
by RF
Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:08 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Graf Spee comes out
Replies: 11
Views: 1186

Re: Graf Spee comes out

I don't know about Exeter's rate of fire, but given the two factors of (1) how long it took between AGS opening fire at near full range and Exeter getting into range and (2) the short time elapse before Exeter's forward turrets were knocked out by direct hits, would suggest a pretty rapid rate of fi...
by RF
Fri Nov 12, 2021 8:33 am
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Graf Spee comes out
Replies: 11
Views: 1186

Re: Graf Spee comes out

The source for 2 rounds per minute was Rasenack's book on the AGS, this is for the rate of fire at the RP battle where there were spotting difficulties, given the twists and turns AGS was making and the effects of her own smoke.
by RF
Thu Nov 11, 2021 7:03 pm
Forum: Hypothetical Naval Scenarios
Topic: Graf Spee comes out
Replies: 11
Views: 1186

Re: Graf Spee comes out

The problem for AGS was that Cumberland was a genuine county class cruiser compared to the Exeter. I think AGS would have had trouble shooting it out with Cumberland. The AGS rate of main armament fire was too slow, only two salvoes per minute. On that basis, unless AGS lands a devastating hit on Cu...
by RF
Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:48 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Range of Bismarck's guns
Replies: 17
Views: 1386

Re: Range of Bismarck's guns

José M. Rico wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:34 am
No disadvantage at all.
Scharnhorst guns had a maximum range of 40,930 meters at 40º elevation, and the longest hit ever obtained against a moving target at sea was from 24,000 meters.
Was that the hit on the flight deck of HMS Glorious?
by RF
Thu Nov 11, 2021 6:43 pm
Forum: Bismarck General Discussion
Topic: Bismarck - 24 Hours to Doom
Replies: 8
Views: 487

Re: Bismarck - 24 Hours to Doom

I have now seen this ''documentary'' and as soon as it started I heard Prinz Eugen being described as a ''light cruiser'' and realised that I was listening to a complete ignoramous. As a cruiser I think Prinz Eugen was something of a super heavy weight, especially in terms of tonnage, something like...