Uses of Capstan
Uses of Capstan
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I'm reading some text that mentions a capstan can be used for hoisting heavy spars and even ship's boats. But my question is, how?
I know the capstans are used for hauling anchor cables through messengers and can be used for club hauling, etc., but I can't figure out how this turning action can be transferred to hoisting spars high up to the masts.
I'm reading some text that mentions a capstan can be used for hoisting heavy spars and even ship's boats. But my question is, how?
I know the capstans are used for hauling anchor cables through messengers and can be used for club hauling, etc., but I can't figure out how this turning action can be transferred to hoisting spars high up to the masts.
I will ask all the questions on all things floaty.
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Hi AThompson,
It's great to see activity on the forum. And there are no daft questions. Much knowledge is not recorded because the author forgets the reader has not had the same experiences as them, and "everyday" things are not explained.
Take a pulley block and secure a tail rope from its body to a deck strongpoint. A rope passing through the pulley can be redirected upwards to a second block high in the rigging, around that and back down to the deck where it can be attached to the object to be lifted. Install your fiddle player on the capstan, get him to play a suitable tune, and with sufficient jolly tars at the capstan bars, up, up and away goes the heaviest item.
Later, when steam capstans become the norm, the same arrangement works for the ship's derricks to load and unload cargo from the ship's holds. The winding power is transferred across the deck from where it is available to where it is needed by ropes and pulleys. Only with hydraulic and later electrical power is it possible to make a shipboard crane self-contained.
All the best
wadinga
It's great to see activity on the forum. And there are no daft questions. Much knowledge is not recorded because the author forgets the reader has not had the same experiences as them, and "everyday" things are not explained.
Take a pulley block and secure a tail rope from its body to a deck strongpoint. A rope passing through the pulley can be redirected upwards to a second block high in the rigging, around that and back down to the deck where it can be attached to the object to be lifted. Install your fiddle player on the capstan, get him to play a suitable tune, and with sufficient jolly tars at the capstan bars, up, up and away goes the heaviest item.
Later, when steam capstans become the norm, the same arrangement works for the ship's derricks to load and unload cargo from the ship's holds. The winding power is transferred across the deck from where it is available to where it is needed by ropes and pulleys. Only with hydraulic and later electrical power is it possible to make a shipboard crane self-contained.
All the best
wadinga
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It's a human powered motor.
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Other uses of the capstan -
"warping"
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display ... 0513B62DED
"kedging"
https://nsc.ca/nsc_library/techtalk/dewitte_kedging.php
(most famously employed by a becalmed USS Constitution to escape a pursuing British squadron during the War of 1812)
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"warping"
https://www.oxfordreference.com/display ... 0513B62DED
"kedging"
https://nsc.ca/nsc_library/techtalk/dewitte_kedging.php
(most famously employed by a becalmed USS Constitution to escape a pursuing British squadron during the War of 1812)
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One little known aspect of the age of sail is that there were not davits for the boats, at least not for the heavier ones. The yards were used to hoist the boats from deck and lower them to the sea, a time consuming task, no wonder they were not considered life boats . For this and to avoid damage boats were lowered to the sea previous to battle (if time and weather allowed).
Another little known curiosity is that not only were capstan used to rise spars, but also masts. The mast as you can see in any masting diagram, was composed not of a single piece, but from at least three masts, the lower one that rested on the keel, the topmast on top, and the topgallant (clippers had more). They were not piled one above the other, but each steeped in front of the lower one, so the could be lowered.
In this image the topgallants have been stroke down in front of the topmasts, and the topgallant sail yards have been sent down on deck.
Another little known curiosity is that not only were capstan used to rise spars, but also masts. The mast as you can see in any masting diagram, was composed not of a single piece, but from at least three masts, the lower one that rested on the keel, the topmast on top, and the topgallant (clippers had more). They were not piled one above the other, but each steeped in front of the lower one, so the could be lowered.
In this image the topgallants have been stroke down in front of the topmasts, and the topgallant sail yards have been sent down on deck.
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Link not working.
And I think you mean "struck", not "stroke".
And I think you mean "struck", not "stroke".
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Yes! Struck is the correct word. For the link I can´t help, I can see it.OpanaPointer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:08 am Link not working.
And I think you mean "struck", not "stroke".
Here are some more.
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That pics works. I get the error I saw from imgur sometimes.
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That´s good! You know, marine artist of the old days are a respected source of information regarding masting and rigging, they had good eyes for detail.OpanaPointer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:32 am That pics works. I get the error I saw from imgur sometimes.
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Thanks, Wadinga.wadinga wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:54 am Hi AThompson,
It's great to see activity on the forum. And there are no daft questions. Much knowledge is not recorded because the author forgets the reader has not had the same experiences as them, and "everyday" things are not explained.
Take a pulley block and secure a tail rope from its body to a deck strongpoint. A rope passing through the pulley can be redirected upwards to a second block high in the rigging, around that and back down to the deck where it can be attached to the object to be lifted. Install your fiddle player on the capstan, get him to play a suitable tune, and with sufficient jolly tars at the capstan bars, up, up and away goes the heaviest item.
Later, when steam capstans become the norm, the same arrangement works for the ship's derricks to load and unload cargo from the ship's holds. The winding power is transferred across the deck from where it is available to where it is needed by ropes and pulleys. Only with hydraulic and later electrical power is it possible to make a shipboard crane self-contained.
All the best
wadinga
That... actually makes a lot of sense now you say it. I still maintain in all nautical text there should be a glossary of picture diagrams at the back for each activity stated in the text.
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In the case of the age of sail this would need at least 3 or 4 volumes!
For the construction, decks, etc...
Masting and rigging
Shiphandling
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I have Seamanship in the Age of Sail. I just haven't finished it, yet. It's a beast. The other two are oddly already on my Wishlist. Birthday soon. Fingered crossed.
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Check out “The 74 Gun Ship” by Jean Boudriot ..........
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For a small town boy in Indiana Hornblower was a bit of a challenge, but I plunged through all those nautical crises he managed. Nearly wore out two librarians chasing information not available in a library serving a town of ~7,000 Hoosier hicks.
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I think there was a companion volume, explaining some things about the era.OpanaPointer wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:40 am For a small town boy in Indiana Hornblower was a bit of a challenge, but I plunged through all those nautical crises he managed. Nearly wore out two librarians chasing information not available in a library serving a town of ~7,000 Hoosier hicks.